Tuesday, September 23, 2014

The Desire of Women

From my Eschatology Blog

The Desire of Women

Daniel 11:37, universally agree by PreMillennial Futurists to be about The Antichrist
"Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all."
 What is meant by "the desire of women" here is perhaps the most crypt mystery of this verse.  No identical phrase seems to appear anywhere else in Scripture.

There are two very popular wrong views about this phrase, which derive form a similar bad reading.  That it means he's a Homosexual, or that it means he's a Misogynist.  The latter is usually only argued for by those focused on a Mahdi theory, but even back when I was leaning towards the Madhi view I never considered that argument plausible.  The former happens to fit in with the other great Boogeyman modern Evangelical Christians are afraid of, western liberals.  There are of course LGBT individuals and supporters who are politically "Conservative" in other areas, like Log Cabin Republicans, and Libertarians.

Even if the phrase implied a lack of sexual desire for Women, that doesn't leave Homosexuality as the only option, it could also be Asexual.  But that's not what the phrase means.  If it was meant to say that it would have said he doesn't desire women.

The grammar is about something Women desire, which equally invalidates the other false conclusion.

I agree with both Chuck Missler and Chris White that "The Desire of Women" is a Messianic Title.  And with White that "the God of His Fathers" is The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.  I agree with White's Antichrist Theory in terms of the first half of the 7th Week, but not the second half and his related Pre-Wrath suppositions.  The Willful King will disregard the True Messiah by claiming the title for himself.

The beginning of Messianic Prophecy, in fact all Prophecy, is Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
The promise of The Seed of The Woman.  Latter we have Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Luke 1:41-45
 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, "Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.  And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?  For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.  And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord."
And at the center of this theme is Revelation 12, where The Woman gives birth to The Man Child.
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.  And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.  And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 
So "The Desire of Women" is clearly Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
 This is not one of the standard Clobber Passages, but it is something that comes up.  Of course my view of the passage is agreed with by plenty who hold the position that Homosexuality is a Sin.

As I presented on that blog, I choose not to distract from the issue at hand by going into my views on Homosexuality in the Bible.  But since it's relevant I wanted to share it here.

3 comments:

  1. Timothy gives the answer to he shall not have the desire of women but exalt himself above all that is worshipped of called god showing himself to be god in a human man the temple of God
    Timothy speaks of The enforced celibacy doctrine of demons laws of the papacy the lawless one , the anti christ.

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  2. Shwping thsmelves to be God
    Also fulfilled by them THE PAPACY saying the pope is not just a representative of jesus christ ( they preach another Jesus another christ NOT come in the flesh) for they say his mother was without sin and so not of all flesh and so could not made him of a woman of flesh ) but is Jesus christ under the veil of flesh

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  3. The new testament revelation is one led into all truth by the holy spirit of truth as Jesus promised.
    He the spirit of truth gave the word of God which defines antichrist and his teachings being fulfilled in the papacy , who ruled for 1260 years exactly from 538 ad to 1798 ad as supreme in roman law.
    Was abolished
    Then came back in 1929 via jesuit negotiating on behalf of the pope the lateran treaty allowing the papacy back into the great city vatican in the firm of the second beast out of the earth where the dragons water was engulfed.
    With two horns like a lamb yet speaking like dragon
    The pope and the jesuit.

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