Three times in the Pastoral Epistles Paul makes a comment about Overseers (Bishops in the KJV) and Deacons being the "Husband of One Wife", or in some more literal translations "of one wife a husband". 1 Timothy 3:2-12 and Titus 1:6.
When Protestants are attacking the Catholic Priestly Celibacy doctrine they quote these verses as if no less then one is the point. But then when trying to claim the Bible teaches strict Monogamy will argue the point is no more then one. Either of those applications would be a lot more plausible to me if the Greek word used was Mono, but instead the word used is Mia.
The Oriental Orthodox Church (which includes the Coptic, Nubian, Ethiopian and Armenian Churches) is commonly accused of Monophysitism (believing Jesus had only one nature, usually Divine rather then Human) by Chalcedonians. They however insist that they are instead Miaphysite because they believe Christ's Divine and Human natures are United.
They take this use of Mia and Physis from a quote of Cyril of Alexandria, but Cyril is also revered as a Saint by Chalcedonians who insist what Cyril said in that quote is perfectly compatible with the Chalcedonian Definition. The Chalcedonian Definition itself is not really why the Oriental Orthodox reject Chalcedon, but rather Chalcedon's condemnation of Dioscorus. I don't want to get into all that here, the point is the Greek word Mia while often translated "one" can refer to something there is more then one of.
I think the point of these three quotes in the Pastoral Epistles was the Unity between Husband and Wife. But my point is that phrasing was never meant to rule out being untied with more then one wife. BTW the Husband and Wife being One Flesh verses also use Mia.
Many people (Muslims, Unitarians, Modalists, JWs, some Jews and even Secularists) accuse Nicene Trinitarian Christianity of not being truly Monotheist. And we typically feel compelled to defend the applicability of the term Monotheism to us. But I have recently been asking, why? Monotheism and Monotheist are NOT Biblical terms.
I've looked at every New Testament verse that says "One God" or that "God is One", or "One Lord" or "Lord is One". And likewise none of them use Mono either but instead Heis. Some material from my Trinity in the Hebrew Bible and the YT videos I linked to in it are worth remembering here.
When Mono is used in the New Testament, in the KJV it partly because of context tends to get translated "Alone" or "Only" instead of simply One. While it is used close to Theos in the text sometimes it's never directly used of how many Theos exist or that we worship.
According to the Strongs Concordance, Mia is the "irregular feminine" form of Heis. Now it's easy to guess why Paul used a feminine form when referring to wives. But why did Cyril use a feminine form when referring to the Divine and Human natures of Christ? Is it simply that Miaphysite rolls off the tong as a name for your Christology better then Heisphysite? Or maybe it's because Cyril said this while he was engaging in the Theotokos controversy and wanted to stress that it was in the Womb of a Woman that Deity and Humanity were United?
But perhaps Cyril had some awareness of what I talked about in The God of The Bible is both Masculine and Feminine?
So this Trinitarian Christian feels prepared to suggest that maybe we should stop clinging to the title of Monotheist and instead claim we are Miatheists, we believe True God is Three Persons who are United in One Being or Essence. #Miatheism
In fact given how often Mono is translated things like "Only" and "Alone" I am willing to consider using it to define God potentially in conflict with the Nicene understanding of The Trinity. Calling God the Monad was part of Gnosticism and Neoplatonism. C Baxter Kruger likes to make the point that God didn't create Humanity because he was lonely, that theory on the "why" of Creation ignores The Trinity. God created Humanity because they were a family that wanted to add to that family. Elohim was technically plural right there in Genesis 1:1.
All of my posts on this Blog are meant to be Conversation Starters. I never want to be the final word on any topic. I'm trying to put ideas out there that hopefully others more knowledgeable and skilled then me can expand on.
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Wednesday, December 4, 2019
Monday, August 7, 2017
Early Christian Schisms on the Nature of Christ
This blog Post is partly my thoughts on Extra Credits series of YouTube videos on the Subject of Early Christian Schisms.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhyKYa0YJ_5A2WfrnfPglTL_ZCPDN_rDT
They made that series partly to provide background for their earlier series on Justinian and Theodora. My own opinion on Justinian isn't nearly so positive as theirs.
They covered this subject from a Secular perspective, not really interested in which position in these disputes The Bible agrees with. And that's fine, an outsider perspective on Christianity can be very useful. So I'm going to take it on myself to provide my Biblically influenced personal perspective. Though the issue central to the last episode, episode IV, is primarily what I'll be talking about.
The first three episodes are all about disputes where who won in the end I feel is pretty strongly agreed to be the Biblically supported position. Most Christians speaking negatively of the Council of Nicea do so from not knowing what that Council actually debated. Last month I did posts on The Council of Nicea and the Homoousion Doctrine partly in preparation for this post.
I feel they should have had another episode between the Council of Nicea episode and the Nestorian controversy episode (Episodes III and IV) on the Pelegian controversy. The chief opponent of Pelagius was Augustine of Hippo, a man I have little fondness for.
Some people think what Pelagius taught has been misrepresented by his opponents.
The controversy central to the final video of this series was a three way dispute about how Jesus Divine and Human natures relate to each other.
1. The Chalcedonian position, that Jesus had two different but unified or mixed natures, a Divine Nature and a Human Nature.
2. The Nestorian position, that Jesus had two distinct and separate natures, a Divine Nature and a Human Nature.
3. The Monophysite position, that Jesus had one single Nature that was both Divine and Human.
(Monophysite was often used broadly to include other groups that wouldn't have called themselves that. I personally find the best form of Monophysitism to be Miaphysitism.)
All three agree that Jesus was both Divine and Human, and not in a Greek demigod half-god/half-man sense, but fully Divine and Fully Human. I personally find the differences between these three views to be quite semantical and not a big deal. Especially since I'm not sure what my own view is. But it seems in Christianized Rome is was a pretty big deal.
Last month I expressed support for Traducianism on the issue of how most Human Soul/Spirits are created. Even that doesn't settle the issue. At fist glance it would seemingly help the Chalcedonian position, a Human Nature inherited from Mary mixed with a Divine Nature provided by the Holy Spirit. But a Monophysite or Miaphysite would retort that we don't refer to most Humans as having two natures, a Paternal one and a Maternal one, but as having one. Perhaps the Nestorian position would be the hardest to make compatible with Traducianism, but I don't think impossible.
Pretty much all major Christian denominations in the West are considered nominally Chalcedonian (Catholicism, Greek Orthodox, all major Protestants denomination as well as Baptists, Pentecostals, and Evangelicals). Even though I don't think most average Christians or even Pastors in America have ever actually thought about what their position on this debate would be.
One reason why I think Protestants and Evangelicals should take a second look at this History is because of how much the inciting incident was Nestorius (and it seems even some Monophysites) objected to calling Mary "Theotokos" (God Bearer) a Title that definitely plays into her quasi-Deification. And it seems Nestorius may have inherited this from his mentor Theodore of Mopsuestia.
As someone who likes to draw attention to overlooked Historically important Women, I wish the Extra Credits video on his controversy had talked about some of the Women who were important to these events. Theodosius II's sister Pulcheria worked with Cyril of Alexandria strongly supporting the Chalceodnian position, and was a strong supporter of calling Mary Theotokos. While his wife Aelia Eudocia was a Monophysite who opposed calling Mary Theotokos.
I'm not sure why the Monophosytes would oppose that title for Mary, I mean as an Evangelical I can see why even some Cahcledonians wouldn't like it. But as far as it being used as a rallying point in this dispute, I don't really get it.
If the Chalcedonian position is correct, it's unfortunate it had such horrible representatives during this time period. Cyril of Alexandria was very Anti-Semtic and generally in support of persecuting non-Believers. However as I expressed before, I blame these negative traits more on his belief in Eternal Damnation.
So again I'm not entirely sure what my position is. I'll stick with being Nominally Chalcedonian for the time being. Nesotrianism can be the most interesting historically to look into, and I may definitely have more to say about that subject on this Blog in the future.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhyKYa0YJ_5A2WfrnfPglTL_ZCPDN_rDT
They made that series partly to provide background for their earlier series on Justinian and Theodora. My own opinion on Justinian isn't nearly so positive as theirs.
They covered this subject from a Secular perspective, not really interested in which position in these disputes The Bible agrees with. And that's fine, an outsider perspective on Christianity can be very useful. So I'm going to take it on myself to provide my Biblically influenced personal perspective. Though the issue central to the last episode, episode IV, is primarily what I'll be talking about.
The first three episodes are all about disputes where who won in the end I feel is pretty strongly agreed to be the Biblically supported position. Most Christians speaking negatively of the Council of Nicea do so from not knowing what that Council actually debated. Last month I did posts on The Council of Nicea and the Homoousion Doctrine partly in preparation for this post.
I feel they should have had another episode between the Council of Nicea episode and the Nestorian controversy episode (Episodes III and IV) on the Pelegian controversy. The chief opponent of Pelagius was Augustine of Hippo, a man I have little fondness for.
Some people think what Pelagius taught has been misrepresented by his opponents.
Recent analysis of his thinking suggests that it was, in fact, highly orthodox, following in the tradition established by the early fathers and in keeping with the teaching of the church in both the East and the West. ... From what we are able to piece together from the few sources available... it seems that the Celtic monk held to an orthodox view of the prevenience of God's grace, and did not assert that individuals could achieve salvation purely by their own efforts...[ Bradley, Ian (1993) The Celtic Way. London: Darton, Longman and Todd; p. 62]Free Will is definitely a Biblically supported Doctrine. Theodore of Mopsuestia wrote "two tomes against him who asserts that sin is inherent in human nature." Which was no doubt an attack on Augustine of Hippo.
The controversy central to the final video of this series was a three way dispute about how Jesus Divine and Human natures relate to each other.
1. The Chalcedonian position, that Jesus had two different but unified or mixed natures, a Divine Nature and a Human Nature.
2. The Nestorian position, that Jesus had two distinct and separate natures, a Divine Nature and a Human Nature.
3. The Monophysite position, that Jesus had one single Nature that was both Divine and Human.
(Monophysite was often used broadly to include other groups that wouldn't have called themselves that. I personally find the best form of Monophysitism to be Miaphysitism.)
All three agree that Jesus was both Divine and Human, and not in a Greek demigod half-god/half-man sense, but fully Divine and Fully Human. I personally find the differences between these three views to be quite semantical and not a big deal. Especially since I'm not sure what my own view is. But it seems in Christianized Rome is was a pretty big deal.
Last month I expressed support for Traducianism on the issue of how most Human Soul/Spirits are created. Even that doesn't settle the issue. At fist glance it would seemingly help the Chalcedonian position, a Human Nature inherited from Mary mixed with a Divine Nature provided by the Holy Spirit. But a Monophysite or Miaphysite would retort that we don't refer to most Humans as having two natures, a Paternal one and a Maternal one, but as having one. Perhaps the Nestorian position would be the hardest to make compatible with Traducianism, but I don't think impossible.
Pretty much all major Christian denominations in the West are considered nominally Chalcedonian (Catholicism, Greek Orthodox, all major Protestants denomination as well as Baptists, Pentecostals, and Evangelicals). Even though I don't think most average Christians or even Pastors in America have ever actually thought about what their position on this debate would be.
One reason why I think Protestants and Evangelicals should take a second look at this History is because of how much the inciting incident was Nestorius (and it seems even some Monophysites) objected to calling Mary "Theotokos" (God Bearer) a Title that definitely plays into her quasi-Deification. And it seems Nestorius may have inherited this from his mentor Theodore of Mopsuestia.
As someone who likes to draw attention to overlooked Historically important Women, I wish the Extra Credits video on his controversy had talked about some of the Women who were important to these events. Theodosius II's sister Pulcheria worked with Cyril of Alexandria strongly supporting the Chalceodnian position, and was a strong supporter of calling Mary Theotokos. While his wife Aelia Eudocia was a Monophysite who opposed calling Mary Theotokos.
I'm not sure why the Monophosytes would oppose that title for Mary, I mean as an Evangelical I can see why even some Cahcledonians wouldn't like it. But as far as it being used as a rallying point in this dispute, I don't really get it.
If the Chalcedonian position is correct, it's unfortunate it had such horrible representatives during this time period. Cyril of Alexandria was very Anti-Semtic and generally in support of persecuting non-Believers. However as I expressed before, I blame these negative traits more on his belief in Eternal Damnation.
So again I'm not entirely sure what my position is. I'll stick with being Nominally Chalcedonian for the time being. Nesotrianism can be the most interesting historically to look into, and I may definitely have more to say about that subject on this Blog in the future.
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